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		<title>Von: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Peer Money</title>
		<link>http://keimform.de/2009/ox4-notes-iii-money-and-patterns/#comment-16277</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Peer Money</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Christian Siefkes denies that money and markets are “more or less neutral tools which can be used for non-capitalist purposes,” arguing that since money and markets were never the primary means of organizing production in a non-capitalist society, money “cannot become the dominant social form outside of capitalism.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christian Siefkes denies that money and markets are “more or less neutral tools which can be used for non-capitalist purposes,” arguing that since money and markets were never the primary means of organizing production in a non-capitalist society, money “cannot become the dominant social form outside of capitalism.” [...]</p>
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		<title>Von: ox4 Notes IV: Case Study of a Large Free Software Project &#8212; keimform.de</title>
		<link>http://keimform.de/2009/ox4-notes-iii-money-and-patterns/#comment-16128</link>
		<dc:creator>ox4 Notes IV: Case Study of a Large Free Software Project &#8212; keimform.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post finally concludes my coverage of the ox4 conference (part 1, part 2, part 3). On the third day, George Dafermos presented a case study of the FreeBSD project. He talked mainly [...]</description>
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		<title>Von: P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There is such a thing as peer money</title>
		<link>http://keimform.de/2009/ox4-notes-iii-money-and-patterns/#comment-16064</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; There is such a thing as peer money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 08:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent contribution to Keimform, Christian Siefkes reiterates that talking about peer money is a contradiction in [...]</description>
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		<title>Von: Martin</title>
		<link>http://keimform.de/2009/ox4-notes-iii-money-and-patterns/#comment-16057</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; For me, A Pattern Language is one of the five best books that were ever written. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Which are the other four?

I grant you &quot;The Pattern Language&quot; as a great book, but one has to be careful in using his method. There&#039;s a structural conservatism in it. In all his books, Alexander points out that good things can only be based on preexisting fields of influences at work, in integrating existing patterns etc. The possibility of creating something genuinely new is not granted enough space. - Already in &quot;Notes On the Synthesis of Form&quot; (1964), his first book, one sees what comes of this. The first variable (of 141) is &quot;Harijans regarded as ritually impure, untouchable etc.&quot; (p. 137) This is now meticulously integrated with a lot of other variables, like pattern 6 &quot;Wish for temples&quot;, and influences the basic layout proposed for an indian village (i.e. pattern D2, p.  No thought is spared where the &quot;wish for temples&quot; or the &quot;impurity of Harijans&quot; comes from, these are simply taken to be there (labeled in this case as &quot;religious needs&quot;). Though without a doubt these needs were really felt by (most of the) villagers, the fact that a good layout might change some of these existing forces of society is discounted. The people in the community who don&#039;t think in these terms are overruled, the structures found in the society are built in the environment. (In the book, a detailed design for an indian village is developed, which integrates all this &quot;forces&quot;.)

Alexander talks a lot about &quot;life&quot; and living structures, about good and bad design. What he means with &quot;life&quot; is mostly reverence for existing structures and forces found in life and society. Try to read &quot;The Timeless Way of Building&quot;, which gives the theory to &quot;The Pattern Language&quot;. I promise everyone a bar of chocolate who reads this from the first to the last sentence - and I&#039;m confident I don&#039;t have to pay because his endless chewing on bloodless metaphors (&quot;Quality without a name&quot;) and his hate for everything modern, technological, efficient, obviously human-made etc. makes this forbidding work. In &quot;The Production of Houses&quot;, he recommends poor Mexicans to draw the layouts of their houses on the floor, walk through them, imagine the building, then build it with their own hands, assisted by the neighbors, with certain simple methods (i.e. every room gets a little dome!). (Only thing missing is them singing together while they lift the stones.) It&#039;s the fantasy of a Californian of the good and simple life, but not what people want.

I read &quot;The Pattern Language&quot; in great detail some years ago and was faszinated. Most people who read the book seem to be enchanted. But the results, as I said, are not that great. Try &quot;A New Theory of Urban Design&quot; (1987), it&#039;s less well known than the others. In this, he redevelopes a whole area of San Francisco with his students (as a model), closely adhering to Pattern Language principles (not to the patterns themselves, new patterns are also introduced). The result is a very mediocre, highly eclectic-looking post-historicist architecture, with lots of &quot;nice features&quot; like playgrounds and fountains, but no intellectual daring or special character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> For me, A Pattern Language is one of the five best books that were ever written. </p></blockquote>
<p>Which are the other four?</p>
<p>I grant you &#8220;The Pattern Language&#8221; as a great book, but one has to be careful in using his method. There&#8217;s a structural conservatism in it. In all his books, Alexander points out that good things can only be based on preexisting fields of influences at work, in integrating existing patterns etc. The possibility of creating something genuinely new is not granted enough space. &#8211; Already in &#8220;Notes On the Synthesis of Form&#8221; (1964), his first book, one sees what comes of this. The first variable (of 141) is &#8220;Harijans regarded as ritually impure, untouchable etc.&#8221; (p. 137) This is now meticulously integrated with a lot of other variables, like pattern 6 &#8220;Wish for temples&#8221;, and influences the basic layout proposed for an indian village (i.e. pattern D2, p.  No thought is spared where the &#8220;wish for temples&#8221; or the &#8220;impurity of Harijans&#8221; comes from, these are simply taken to be there (labeled in this case as &#8220;religious needs&#8221;). Though without a doubt these needs were really felt by (most of the) villagers, the fact that a good layout might change some of these existing forces of society is discounted. The people in the community who don&#8217;t think in these terms are overruled, the structures found in the society are built in the environment. (In the book, a detailed design for an indian village is developed, which integrates all this &#8220;forces&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Alexander talks a lot about &#8220;life&#8221; and living structures, about good and bad design. What he means with &#8220;life&#8221; is mostly reverence for existing structures and forces found in life and society. Try to read &#8220;The Timeless Way of Building&#8221;, which gives the theory to &#8220;The Pattern Language&#8221;. I promise everyone a bar of chocolate who reads this from the first to the last sentence &#8211; and I&#8217;m confident I don&#8217;t have to pay because his endless chewing on bloodless metaphors (&#8220;Quality without a name&#8221;) and his hate for everything modern, technological, efficient, obviously human-made etc. makes this forbidding work. In &#8220;The Production of Houses&#8221;, he recommends poor Mexicans to draw the layouts of their houses on the floor, walk through them, imagine the building, then build it with their own hands, assisted by the neighbors, with certain simple methods (i.e. every room gets a little dome!). (Only thing missing is them singing together while they lift the stones.) It&#8217;s the fantasy of a Californian of the good and simple life, but not what people want.</p>
<p>I read &#8220;The Pattern Language&#8221; in great detail some years ago and was faszinated. Most people who read the book seem to be enchanted. But the results, as I said, are not that great. Try &#8220;A New Theory of Urban Design&#8221; (1987), it&#8217;s less well known than the others. In this, he redevelopes a whole area of San Francisco with his students (as a model), closely adhering to Pattern Language principles (not to the patterns themselves, new patterns are also introduced). The result is a very mediocre, highly eclectic-looking post-historicist architecture, with lots of &#8220;nice features&#8221; like playgrounds and fountains, but no intellectual daring or special character.</p>
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		<title>Von: Franz Nahrada</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point. Martin, but in this respect Alexander was not entirely consistent with himself. If you start reading the Pattern Language, already the first pattern (and Alexander highlights it with the highest category of validity, three stars!) is totally speculative and unproven. He calls the pattern &quot;Independent Region&quot; and slightly makes allusions to small nations, but in fact here we have a new and totally speculative pattern which supposes a world without imperialism, dominance and all the beautiful anti-patterns that we face nowadays. There is no &quot;casern&quot; or &quot;barack&quot; patern in the whole pattern book, supposing that military is no longer part of our built reality. And so on and so on.  For me the Pattern Language is a beautiful science fiction book like Hesses Glasperlenspiel - not about technological but about cultural progress bringing out the beauty that is already in this world in a possible world where we strive for the best we have. Yes, there are other patterns like that pretty unproven in the book and largely ignored by architects. Take &quot;living hills&quot; (pattern 39) for example, a pattern rarely realized.

Alexander did not mean that he had predefined all reality. Note that the title is &quot;A&quot; pattern language and not &quot;The&quot; pattern language. We are called to continue this work, even in the domain of architecture. But we are also called to ground our thoughts and avoid abstract speculation. 

For me, A Pattern Language is one of the five best books that were ever written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point. Martin, but in this respect Alexander was not entirely consistent with himself. If you start reading the Pattern Language, already the first pattern (and Alexander highlights it with the highest category of validity, three stars!) is totally speculative and unproven. He calls the pattern &#8220;Independent Region&#8221; and slightly makes allusions to small nations, but in fact here we have a new and totally speculative pattern which supposes a world without imperialism, dominance and all the beautiful anti-patterns that we face nowadays. There is no &#8220;casern&#8221; or &#8220;barack&#8221; patern in the whole pattern book, supposing that military is no longer part of our built reality. And so on and so on.  For me the Pattern Language is a beautiful science fiction book like Hesses Glasperlenspiel &#8211; not about technological but about cultural progress bringing out the beauty that is already in this world in a possible world where we strive for the best we have. Yes, there are other patterns like that pretty unproven in the book and largely ignored by architects. Take &#8220;living hills&#8221; (pattern 39) for example, a pattern rarely realized.</p>
<p>Alexander did not mean that he had predefined all reality. Note that the title is &#8220;A&#8221; pattern language and not &#8220;The&#8221; pattern language. We are called to continue this work, even in the domain of architecture. But we are also called to ground our thoughts and avoid abstract speculation. </p>
<p>For me, A Pattern Language is one of the five best books that were ever written.</p>
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		<title>Von: Martin</title>
		<link>http://keimform.de/2009/ox4-notes-iii-money-and-patterns/#comment-16051</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander&#039;s Pattern Language is indeed great work and very worthwhile for everyone interested in design and planning with a view to human well-being. It was developed to avoid the inhumanity felt, at the time, to be the result of modern planning efforts. It is, however, always simpler to combine &quot;tried and tested patterns&quot; of good design  - which is what Alexander wanted to do with his &quot;timeless way of building&quot; - than to develop something really new, where mistakes have to be made. Maybe for this reason, projects really built with Alexander&#039;s method have, architecturally considered, a somewhat reactionary feeling.

It&#039;s somewhat typical, to my mind, of what happens when creativity is only allowed to operate on the basis of predefined patterns. (By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.natureoforder.com&quot;&gt; Alexander&#039;s new book &lt;/a&gt; is called &quot;The nature of order&quot;. Honi soit qui mal y pense!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander&#8217;s Pattern Language is indeed great work and very worthwhile for everyone interested in design and planning with a view to human well-being. It was developed to avoid the inhumanity felt, at the time, to be the result of modern planning efforts. It is, however, always simpler to combine &#8220;tried and tested patterns&#8221; of good design  &#8211; which is what Alexander wanted to do with his &#8220;timeless way of building&#8221; &#8211; than to develop something really new, where mistakes have to be made. Maybe for this reason, projects really built with Alexander&#8217;s method have, architecturally considered, a somewhat reactionary feeling.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s somewhat typical, to my mind, of what happens when creativity is only allowed to operate on the basis of predefined patterns. (By the way, <a href="http://www.natureoforder.com"> Alexander&#8217;s new book </a> is called &#8220;The nature of order&#8221;. Honi soit qui mal y pense!)</p>
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